Comments on: XHTML disrupted by Mobile access

By: Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney

Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:50:06 +0000

Sorry, I read the example wrong. You could try putting arbitrary text at the end, like
—>

—>

Wow, I have never considered the effects that sort of compression for mobile devices would have on pages…

By: AlastairC

AlastairC — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:18:49 +0000

Sorry about that, not sure how to adjust that in WordPress.

Regarding the validity, I don’t beleive that it uses double dashes except as comment open/closes, so I don’t think it’s invalid (although thanks for the link).

Unless it’s invalid to have the greater/less than signs next to the double dash? I cut and paste that code into the validator and it didn’t complain, so unless there’s a bug in that, it seems valid (except for the one mangled by the network, obviously).

By: Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney

Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:15:54 +0000

Your comments thing eats double dashes.
Unicode? D;-

By: Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney

Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:10:44 +0000

[if !IE] blocks are NOT valid XML and thus are similarly invalid XHTML as the string ‘–’ is not allowed in XML comments as described in the specification:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#sec-comments

By: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard

Ben 'Cerbera' Millard — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 07:18:34 +0000

Project Cerbera now uses overflow-x: scroll; because it works the same in IE6 and Fx2. O9 doesn't apply it. Declaring overflow: auto; with overflow-x: scroll; and overflow-y: visible; below it might work better. I'm not losing sleep over it, though.

By: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard

Ben 'Cerbera' Millard — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:31:41 +0000

Did they answer?

You might find overflow-x: scroll; does what you are looking for.

I use overflow-y: scroll; in Firefox’s userContent.css file so I always have a vertical scrollbar which disables correctly when there’s nowhere to scroll.

IE seemed to respond to the scroll value better than the auto value when I was doing Project Cerbera’s boxes. I might play with this today because, much like yourself, I like to understand problems too. Even if I can’t find a solution.

By: AlastairC

AlastairC — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:30:05 +0000

I'd still like to understand the problem. Anyway, I got this from Orange:

For further assistance regarding this matter, please call our Wirefree Data Services Department on 156 from your Orange phone ... a Representative will be able to assist you in this matter.

Kind regards

XXXX
Orange Customer Services

I'll give them a ring later.

By: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard

Ben 'Cerbera' Millard — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:42:50 +0000

Well, it’s only a blog. Don’t lose sleep over it.

Any response from Orange?

By: AlastairC

AlastairC — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:51:11 +0000

I might be able to use an IE only overflow-x or y rule to get over it, I’m using a conditional comments style sheet.

Slight worse, I’ve just noticed a bug in IE7 (possibly 6) where the first paragraph extends under the navigation bar at certain screen widths. Something to do with the fixed width code item and floated image?

By: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard

Ben 'Cerbera' Millard — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:35:37 +0000

Btw, just noticed your scrollable code boxes don't work quite right in IE6. The third line is obscured by the horizontal scrollbar. Only way I've managed to make them work at all cross-browser is using overflow: scroll; with lots of padding. Even this has problems, like visible scrollbars when you don't need them and Firefox doesn't them disable correctly in single-line samples. The overflow: auto; would be much more elegant..if only it was supported. Can't wait 'till we can drop support for IE6!