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		<title>By: AlastairC</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-35377</link>
		<dc:creator>AlastairC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ofer, 

You would be better off going to a general accessibility forum like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.accessifyforums.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;accessifyforums&lt;/a&gt; for general feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ofer, </p>
<p>You would be better off going to a general accessibility forum like <a href="http://www.accessifyforums.com" rel="nofollow">accessifyforums</a> for general feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Ofer</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-35222</link>
		<dc:creator>Ofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Advert / instructions for a specific product removed - Alastair]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Advert / instructions for a specific product removed - Alastair]</p>
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		<title>By: AlastairC</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-11460</link>
		<dc:creator>AlastairC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, there is some more dodgy marketing going on for a similar product (via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itpro.co.uk/internet/news/102466/websites-must-be-accessible-to-disabled-firms-told.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ITPro&lt;/a&gt;) where they say:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.itpro.co.uk/internet/news/102466/websites-must-be-accessible-to-disabled-firms-told.html&quot; title=&quot;Snippet from ITPro article.&quot;&gt;&quot;It&#039;s the silver bullet,&quot; IMRG&#039;s Chief Executive James Roper told Reuters. &quot;Put this little button on your site and suddenly you are legal.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, there is some more dodgy marketing going on for a similar product (via <a href="http://www.itpro.co.uk/internet/news/102466/websites-must-be-accessible-to-disabled-firms-told.html" rel="nofollow">ITPro</a>) where they say:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.itpro.co.uk/internet/news/102466/websites-must-be-accessible-to-disabled-firms-told.html" title="Snippet from ITPro article."><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the silver bullet,&#8221; IMRG&#8217;s Chief Executive James Roper told Reuters. &#8220;Put this little button on your site and suddenly you are legal.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-797</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

Actually the beauty of Talklets, from Textic, (interest declared, I&#039;m lead developer), is that it needs no install! AND can be used on virtually any site. &quot;Enabled&quot; or otherwise. And has a high level voice. Beating Browsalowd on all counts (IMHO).

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vb2.no-ip.info/VBrowser/VBrowser.aspx?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is a demo and should work for most.&lt;/a&gt; if it doesn&#039;t go here to try http://textictalk.com/talklets/install.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>Actually the beauty of Talklets, from Textic, (interest declared, I&#8217;m lead developer), is that it needs no install! AND can be used on virtually any site. &#8220;Enabled&#8221; or otherwise. And has a high level voice. Beating Browsalowd on all counts (IMHO).</p>
<p><a href="http://vb2.no-ip.info/VBrowser/VBrowser.aspx?" rel="nofollow">This is a demo and should work for most.</a> if it doesn&#8217;t go here to try <a href="http://textictalk.com/talklets/install.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://textictalk.com/talklets/install.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: AlastairC</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>AlastairC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Karl, 

I&#039;m not sure what you mean by sound file? 

Once you&#039;ve got the (browser) pluggin, I thought it simply read from the browser window? (Not DOM, in IE&#039;s case at least.)

I know you can get different voices for it (some of them very good, at a small license cost), but I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s not on a site by site basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Karl, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by sound file? </p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve got the (browser) pluggin, I thought it simply read from the browser window? (Not DOM, in IE&#8217;s case at least.)</p>
<p>I know you can get different voices for it (some of them very good, at a small license cost), but I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s not on a site by site basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good write up Alistair, Dan pointed me this way after I commented about Textic and their &quot;Well Adjusted&quot; Campaign over at my blog.

I can&#039;t readily find the evidence but we looked at Browsaloud a couple of years ago and discovered that the audio file was about 1Mb in size and just raises a different accessibility barrier  with regard to download speed. Easy for corporate users to not notice that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good write up Alistair, Dan pointed me this way after I commented about Textic and their &#8220;Well Adjusted&#8221; Campaign over at my blog.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t readily find the evidence but we looked at Browsaloud a couple of years ago and discovered that the audio file was about 1Mb in size and just raises a different accessibility barrier  with regard to download speed. Easy for corporate users to not notice that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 11:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nicely put Alastair. The browsealoud model just doesn&#039;t work for me either, but they do seem to be capturing a good bit of the public sector market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely put Alastair. The browsealoud model just doesn&#8217;t work for me either, but they do seem to be capturing a good bit of the public sector market.</p>
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		<title>By: AlastairC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlastairC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 17:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Patrick, I&#039;ve had a fairly relaxed launch, it&#039;s been sitting locally for a while, and I put it live last week. (Thus the old article dates.)

I doubt that the user was from browsealoud in this case. They don&#039;t tend to push it as something for blind people for obvious reasons.

Also remember that you can be classed as blind and still retain some vision. I got the impression he was a little confused as to what he wants or should have, which is really what prompted me to post. Plus I don&#039;t think their business model will be successful for the users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Patrick, I&#8217;ve had a fairly relaxed launch, it&#8217;s been sitting locally for a while, and I put it live last week. (Thus the old article dates.)</p>
<p>I doubt that the user was from browsealoud in this case. They don&#8217;t tend to push it as something for blind people for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>Also remember that you can be classed as blind and still retain some vision. I got the impression he was a little confused as to what he wants or should have, which is really what prompted me to post. Plus I don&#8217;t think their business model will be successful for the users.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick h. lauke</title>
		<link>http://alastairc.ac/2006/03/subscription-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick h. lauke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 13:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce Lawson pointed me to your post here...great reading. I&#039;ve been meaning to write my personal thoughts on browsealoud in article form for some time now, and this spurs me on just to put finger to keyboard when I get a chance and just let rip.

Incidentally, I can&#039;t help but think that this &quot;blind user&quot; that contacted your client may well be fictitious (it does sound rather odd that a blind user would find browsealoud useful, as to use their computer they&#039;d presumably already have a screenreader running on their OS)...could this be a new slant to TextHelp&#039;s &quot;plant&quot; users, such as Dyslexic Duncan http://accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22009#22009 ? Something doesn&#039;t quite smell right, if you ask me.

But hey, you know, the PAS &quot;recommends&quot; browsealoud, or does it? http://www.webstandards.org/2006/05/11/all-aboard-the-pas-78-gravy-train/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce Lawson pointed me to your post here&#8230;great reading. I&#8217;ve been meaning to write my personal thoughts on browsealoud in article form for some time now, and this spurs me on just to put finger to keyboard when I get a chance and just let rip.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I can&#8217;t help but think that this &#8220;blind user&#8221; that contacted your client may well be fictitious (it does sound rather odd that a blind user would find browsealoud useful, as to use their computer they&#8217;d presumably already have a screenreader running on their OS)&#8230;could this be a new slant to TextHelp&#8217;s &#8220;plant&#8221; users, such as Dyslexic Duncan <a href="http://accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22009#22009" rel="nofollow">http://accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22009#22009</a> ? Something doesn&#8217;t quite smell right, if you ask me.</p>
<p>But hey, you know, the PAS &#8220;recommends&#8221; browsealoud, or does it? <a href="http://www.webstandards.org/2006/05/11/all-aboard-the-pas-78-gravy-train/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webstandards.org/2006/05/11/all-aboard-the-pas-78-gravy-train/</a></p>
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